Media analyst Mark Dice asked beachgoers in San Diego, California to sign a petition supporting President Obama’s supposed plan to launch of preemptive nuclear attack against Russia to help keep the United States of America the world’s leading superpower. The results are disturbing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNphmFZeYsk
So stupid!
The “disturbing” part is that these people have no idea that Russia has almost twice the number of operational nuclear weapons that we do and delivery systems that we have no ability to stop. They also have the ability to “turn off” much of our electronic systems that protect our ships and planes. Our navy would be completely destroyed in about 48 hours (quote from Adm Rickover) and the entire US Air Force maybe a week. Russia would turn the United States into a river of green boiling glass in a few days tops.. Russia would take a hit but the United states would lose decisively.
Both nations would be effectively destroyed, so I wouldn’t call that a “victory” for Russia,
Yes but I think Russia would survive, the United States wouldn’t for the simple reason that Russia is huge and the Russian people have and can take enormous abuse and keep going, look at Stalingrad. The US would collapse when the EBT cards stop working and the gas stations are empty
The U.S. is pretty big too, but it’s true that the United States might not survive as a unified nation, which is probably for the best at this point. (In both cases though most people would die.) The power belongs with the individual states that comprise the U.S. All of the out of control activities are a result of the central government in D.C. usurping too much power.
Think of yourselves, my dear ! :). The nuke “firefight” will be not the most dangerous thing for the USA. You even can’t imagine the possible Russian answer in a case of attack.
It was descibed recently by Konstantin Sivkov (please, search for “Russian analyst calls for nuclear attack on Yellowstone National Park” for brief retelling of his article in English).
It is dangerous to “kick a sleeping dog”, but it is much more dangerous to kick a sleeping Russian bear with nuclear big stick.
Russia is about twice the size of the US but the real difference other than twice the nuclear warheads is the people. Russians are tough as nails. I work with them and I’m married to one. I married a Russian woman because I knew she would have endless determination to get what she and I needed. She would be able to suffer enormous loss and still keep driving and she has. She shoots like a pro, can field dress a deer and has stamina that I sometimes have trouble keeping up with. And she is Americanized. Russians have never conceded a fight and I don’t believe they ever will. Americans are weak, unfocussed and undisciplined. Remember what happened when the EBT cards in just a couple of cities quit for a few hours last year? One EMP burst and all electronic money payments quit permanently nation wide. Every American city would be in flames within days and the US military would desert en-mass to protect their own families. No food, no fuel, no communications. And then the incoming nuclear barrages start, so no water, no transportation, no medical care outside of first aid. How long do you really think American would last. Now go back and look at what the Russian people did for 3 long Russian winters in Stalingrad.
And we’d get about 3x the number of nuclear strikes in due to the more modern American delivery system. In light of this I would expect equivalent levels of nuclear devastation, even considering the increased landmass of Russia.
Both nations would be utterly neutralized militarily for anything other than at-home defense.
Admittedly a lot of America’s ‘dead weight’ would die off, but in many ways that’s a good thing. If America tried to invade Russia we’d be screwed, and if Russia tried to invade America they would be too.
True but the Russians have the ability to neutralize much of our delivery and defense system, they have been proving this recently as a warning to the fools in Washington. Massive devastation, yes. But the Russia would survive, America would not as a nation. America has no culture and no national unity because the elites have been wrecking it for decades with their divide and rule strategy. Americans will eat each other to survive while Russians will remain unified and disciplined.. Several Russian political scientists have suggested that Russia would occupy The US mainland after the war and break it up into 6 competing federalist republics so that The US can never again threaten the world to the point of the war the Russians would have to clean up. I would definitely support that.
I wouldn’t. America’s cultural, political, and economic foundations have been rotted out and our military manipulated by the same predatory central banking cabal that now owns Russia’s central bank and pulls the strings behind the scenes, for about 100 years now. Is the world really better off with nobody to counteract efforts at forming a one world government emanating from a unipolar military the east? I don’t think so. If the America imperialism experiment has proven anything it’s that a militarily unipolar world is not a good thing. Your proposed course of action would leave the exact same perpetrators in power.
I also don’t think it will happen. I don’t think Russia can counteract enough of the submarine launched MIRVs to be ‘invasion ready’ quickly enough. They’d have their nation to rebuild. Russians rock at defense, but that’s not what this would be. They would however destroy America’s ability to wage war for quite a while (suffering loss of most of their own population in the process.)
A bi-polar or multipolar world is far preferable. You can split America into as many pieces as you want but without occupying it for generations it will recoalesce into at most 3-4 nations probably along ethnic lines, and probably with military cooperation between them.
You are correct in the sense that the rot is so deep that we need to completely dismantle the government in the US and start again I think. Yes the Globalists own the Russian central bank although I wouldn’t put it past Putin to take a shot at purging them at some point. The hope I have it that rebuilding America with 5 or 6 separate entities we might be able to
lock out the globalists with public banks and real democracies. Two of the likely republics, New England and the Pacific NW I hope would have enough educated people involved in the reconstruction to re-build a real nation, not a putrifing plutocracy. The key thing is that globaism in America needs to be smashed such that America can no longer threaten the rest of the world.
America never threatened the world until the European central bankers occupied its government, and any large scale destruction of America as a military force would be counterproductive if it left those same central bankers in power using Russia and China as their new hired thugs. I think the governance structures of th
Yes and I would hope that at least some Americans would be smart enough to take the opportunity to decentralize. American in these pieces I hope could rebuild without the vampire class.
America’s founding fathers got it pretty close. Had they included some portions more clearly limiting the scope of the federal government’s authority to regulate commerce ‘amongst the states’, making it clear that the power to coin/print money, as with all enumerated powers, could NOT be delegated to a private entity, and put a hard cap on the amount the federal government can tax, I think the experiment might’ve succeeded, and with a few constitutional amendments could still succeed (and a great deal of authority would revert to the states where it belongs.)
I agree and would take it one step further for firewalls in the original Constitution. I would have given only the states the power to coin debt free money, not the federal government, nor could the federal government borrow. It would be funded by the states. That would have kept it throttled. But since the federal government can create money limitlessly by borrowing and cooking the books. It will eventually consume it’s host if it isn’t stopped, because it has no throttle. Destroying the parasites may be easier than you think. The key is people have to know who the real enemy is. Thanks to the internet billions around the world do. The only way to destroy these parasites is to ignore them. I don’t borrow money, it’s actually not “borrowing” it’ assuming a debt. Haven’t done it for more than 10 years. I do a lot of trading, barter and buying things with physical gold and silver. So no records and no taxes. I try and not buy from multi nationals whenever possible. I don’t buy “consumer products” as a rule. I grow some of my own food and buy probably 70% of what I eat from local farms. I can generate my own power and I have a well and septic. I don’t have cable, I have an antenna and a FTA Ku Band dish so I can get real news. I haven’t had cable or watched CNN, FOX or any of that crap in 15 years at least. The last presidential speech I watched was one of Ronald Regans. I’ve never heard Obama speak, not interested. When I do buy from a store it’s almost always cash. Hardly ever use credit cards. If Americans en-mass disengage from the matrix, the whole damn system will collapse. Government can only commit crimes until the effects of those crimes become evident. The internet has made it evident. I hope and pray that the crimes of private central banking are so evident that people after reconstruction will no longer allow themselves to live inside the matrix.
Nice. We’re gaining ground every day. Unfortunately that means the parasites are desperate, and they have their fingers on the militariies, nuclear launch codes, etc. I think this is a big part of why they are implementing this ‘pivot to the east’ now, because they can’t contain it much longer in a society with an open internet. If they succeed there will be no free and open Internet (and emanating from Russia and China we’ll see draconian controls on Internet speech.) In many ways this is worse than just waiting for the ignorant / TV ‘information consumers’ to age out and the Internet generations to assume power in the west.
The deliberate destruction of public education, with things like common core and nanny state environments is designed to eliminate a population capable of critical thinking and any sort of independence. Yes they are getting desperate and that is when a cornered animal is most dangerous. The key is that they cannot stop you from ignoring them. When people home school, grow their own food and stop watching TV, changing that passive resistance en-mass is like herding cats, it doesn’t work. The resistance is everywhere. I always ignore the census. Last year when they finally started calling me on the phone there was an extreme frustration in the callers voice, for the first time. You could tell they were having less success than an aluminum siding salesman. Then finally on his 3rd and last call he barked “Don’t you people want your government to represent you”. I replied “yes but it doesn’t”. He just slammed down the phone. The internet was developed by engineers like me. We can certainly find ways to circumvent any real attempt at censorship. Proxy servers and peer to peer encryption are just a few rainy days of Java coding away 🙂
Yeah technology is OUR trump card. Knowledge is probably never gonna be centralized and truly controlled again.
One silver lining is the dumb common core sheep are likely to report to the (death/sterilization/enslavement) camps as reported, leaving a remaining population enriched with independent types and free thinkers.
It will be hillarious when 50%+ of us have everything they need to live on our little plot of property: energy from the sun, water from the air, nutrients from the dirt, and knowledge from the RF spectrum. Herding cats indeed.
Bingo…
I recommend you to read the article in “The Sydney Morning Herald” – “Russian analyst urges nuclear attack on Yellowstone National Park and San Andreas fault line” (March 31, 2015).
This article is full of distortions in retelling of Kostantin Sivkov’s article in Russian “VPK News”, but the main idea is clear : there are some more devastating approaches in nuclear war than simple missiles and bombs “exchange”. And on this way the territories of N.America, Europe and Japan are much more nonsurvivable.
I can only add that the height of artificial tsunami born by directed nuclear explosion will be up to 1200-1300 meters (and it can be generated not only at Pacific coast but at Atlantic coast also). There is a big interview of Russian nuclear expert professor Igor Ostretzov (????? ????????) on “Youtube” (unfortunately, only in Russian) , where he had explained this tsunami project.
None of those ideas actually would be expected to work though. All have been researched by the allies, and bombing Yellowstone wouldn’t cause an eruption unless it was going to erupt anyway, same with the ‘earthquake bomb’ where even a bunker buster wouldn’t couple enough energy to the ground to do anything unless there was going to be an earthquake anyway (in which case relieving the stress a little earlier could be helpful.) The tsunami idea would be a huge waste of nuclear weapons better used on the actual targets, since it would take a series of times weapons in a line to direct a significant wave at a single point you might as well have just nuked the coastal city you’re targeting. As far as an unfocused tsunami, there just isn’t enough energy coupled to the water as wave action, no matter how large the nuke is. Much of the water is vaporized and most of what’s not falls right back into the void left by the blast. If somehow an undirected tsunami could be generated it would cause devastation to all countries around the pacific and Atlantic, even more so in terms of life than in America (which in the west has coastal mountain ranges.) These all seem like ‘feel good’ ideas for force multipliers by Russian forces, but in reality (since the research has been done) in all 3 cases it would be a waste of a perfectly good bomb. They’d be better off sticking to EMPing us (we’re more reliant on microprocessors than Russia.)
You are wrong. The idea of tsunami project is far from your understanding because the physical process is rather different (the prompt was given : “tectonic fault”) . But I have no intention to to make you nervous at the moment by additional details 🙂
Trust me: this project was developed by experts and calculations were verified. Russia has all necessary military and military-industrial infrastrucure in order to make such a “surprise” in response to attack.
By the way: above-mentioned nuclear expert professor Ostretzov said that Chinese have developed the similiar “tsunami-project” ,also. They called it – “Typhoon”.
That would be what they call ‘propaganda’. It doesn’t matter how you calculate it the raw scale of the energy numbers just don’t work out for anything but a directed/constructed wave (and in that case you might as well just nuke the target.) Such a wave is incapable of hitting ‘the west coast’ or ‘the east coast’ because it’s directed at a small target area where the wavefronts are additive.
Your assertion that it has something to do with the word ‘seismic’ implies they are really just trying to cause an undersea earthquake and that such an earthquake would indirectly cause a tsunami. Setting aside the fact that if they succeeded they would kill millions of friendlies around the Atlantic and Pacific (which would likely put them at war with quite a few of those nations) this runs into the same problems are trying to use nukes to make an earthquake (namely you’d have to drill miles into the seabed to the fault stress point and inject the nuke there.) Even then it probably wouldn’t work unless an earthquake was coming soon anyway, and even if it did create an earthquake it probably wouldn’t make a sizable tsunami.
I’m sure China did their studies as well. All of the world’s major militarizes have looked into it, and it just doesn’t work in real life.
Women: fine, let’s destroy the world, single guys with nobody to protect: fine, let’s destroy the world, a healthy white man with a woman to protect: hey, let’s use our brain, no way, this is insane. Coincidence?
These people are so ignorant, they didn’t even think about the repercussions of what that would mean
S-450 would stop any attack on Russia.
The S-450 doesn’t exist.
Among long-range surface-to-air mobile systems there are :
the S-300 ( Russian: C-300 «???????»; NATO reporting name SA-10 Grumble; in service since 1978 till nowadays ) – its operational range is up to 400 km ;
the S-400 Triumf (Russian: C-400 «??????»; NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler ; in service since 2007 till nowadays) – up to 500 km;
the perspective S-500 “Samoderzhets” (=”Autocrat”, and. It is also known as 55R6M “Triumfator-M” ; this system could enter service by 2017) – up to 600 km.
All existing long-range SAM systems are used together with appropriate medium-range and short-range SAM systems.
Besides there exists the stationary long-range surface-to-air systems A-135 ( NATO: ABM-3) being upgraded to A-235 ( it could enter service this year) intended to protect Moscow region
S-450 is in development which means yes it exist. No country that has the Jewish World Order ready to attack it through NATO is going to release all it’s info on it’s defense systems the world.
Lets keep our fingers crossed that cali falls into the ocean soon, my god how can people be this ignorant!!!!
Seriously? These numbnut douchebags can’t even tell you which countries we fought in WW 2, who the Vice President is, or what rights the 1st Amendment guarantees. Low intelligence/low information citizens should only get one choice: paper or plastic.
Get back to work (if you have a job), shut up, and pay your taxes, Morons!
Indeed. We will be lucky if universal suffrage doesn’t destroy humankind. Not everyone should make the important decisions. I’m all for poll tests, even if they cause ‘discriminatory’ impacts. We can just offer free classes to everyone: If you want to vote, take the class, and pass the test, period.
Insanity on the cusp of abject madness…
I do hope there were many more people who would not sign his petition then the one guy he showed. Probably not.
Brain dead zombies.
How could you belittle zombies ?? You should apologize to zombies !
Your insulting zombies
Fool´s Paradise.
In order to make a comparison the journalist from popular Russian newspaper “Komsomolskaya pravda” asked beachgoers in Aloushta (Crimea, Russian) to sign a petition supporting fictitious plan to launch of preemptive nuclear attack against the United States.
In order to enhance the negative attitude It was preliminary told to these beachgoers that Americans have already signed identic petition.
Only 2 of 30 have signed … with exceptions,,, after “moral suasion” (video in Russian is here – http://russian.rt.com/article/96861 )